2006 DEMF in Detroit

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Detroit Fight Club Founder Speaks Out About 2006 Festival
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This was posted on deephousemusic.com for the educational purposes. The festival is and should be a celebration of the DETROIT music scene, its evolution from the dark days and the people, producers and DJs who help shape the DETROIT music scene.
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What the hell does Detroit having "one single successful house night" have to do with the purpose of the festival. The purpose is to pay homage to the true spirit and history of Detroit dance. Sorry if you don't understand that house music and classics were being played and came BEFORE techno. And even if we're talking techno, true techno as mentioned is that of retro-Detroit, Derrick, Juan, Kevin and others. This is the techno I myself could put into any house set or any hot music set to be specific. I realized after I mailed off a submission package to Paxahau, what the hell did I do submitting a package to a company called Paxahau. How the heck is this organization qualified to 1)judge hotness and 2) understand how deep and rich the history of house/Detroit techno goes and 3) respect the integrity,blood,sweat and tears of our music and culture.

Why do people mention race? Because it is RELEVANT. Of course music is for all, no sh*t Sherlock! The point is that when disco music surfaced (the precursor to all this sh*t), it was underground, black/latino and gay. Go check your history. So while we were ostracized by mainstream, we created, produced, and dj'd our own music on our own terms, we were free in our underground. Everyone who embraced it was welcome, including white folks. Of course there are pioneers that are not black, such as David Mancuso, Nicki Siano, Francois K, etc. But they will tell you they were inspired by black music.

So fast forward to 2006 and a Detroit Music Festival. What a damn shame to know there will be a lack of the truth. Detroit was its illest dj's including Mojo, The Wizard, The Maestro, Reckless Ron Cook, Will Guest, Gary Chandler, Terrence Parker, Duane in the Mix, Al Ester, Ken Collier, Direct Drive, the list goes on. Even Theo Parrish is actually a late addition to the history of what it was back in the day. Theo only recently came to the D in 1995 (and Lord knows I love me some Theo). In fact, if you are from Detroit and didn't shop at Buy Rite Music back in the day, you cannot possibly give justice to the true history of Detroit. If you have no connection with Daryl,Darnell, Rick Wilhite...something will be missing.

This email is obviously at Detroit cats on here and they will know what I'm talkin' bout!

I forgot why I even wrote this email, guess I'm just another pissed off dj from Detroit that feels my city's history is not being given justice.

Oh, and I'd be happy to address anyone Detroit imposter on the tables--like it should be and how it was back in the day.
-Steve Crawford - Founder DFC
http://www.detroitfightclub313.com

[macca]

i don't do black music, i don't do white music, i make fight (club) music...........

[sheridan]

I forgot why I even wrote this email,

obviously, since that post made no sense.
is he upset because the first released line up for demf doesn't have his favorite djs on it?
whatever, the scene is more than detroit and chicago, and I think in time the line up will reflect those cities and those other cities and djs who have helped shaped it.

[thoth]

does anybody have any further info on additions to the line up???

[sheridan]

not yet. the rest of the line up should hopefully be anounced soon.
mostly detroit people I assume.

[Iridium]

As a person who grew up listening to the Electrifying Mojo, and who knows some of the people who's input went into selecting the lineup for the first DEMF, I can totally understand where he is coming from.

As soon as I saw Photek on the line up I knew a watershed had been passed. Looking at the lineup I realized that a young white raver kid from the suburbs had been allowed to pick who he thought would be cool for a rave/festival line up. It's a shame.

The DEMF has been about showcasing Detroit talent and keeping it's history alive. Now the Detroiters have been pushed aside. This line up could be for a show anywhere.

All you have is Richy with a bunch of German techno artists. And a British drum and bass dj for the little white kids where you really should have had Gary Chandler or Assault or Godfather.

The DEMF has lost it's soul.

[thoth]

I disagree......there will be plenty of detroit talent on hand and alot of the european artists are awesome as well....nothing wrong with a little diversity in the line up.
and why does it have to be "some white kid".......fucking racist bullshit remark.

[LeighButler]

I saw some quality local talent there last year, although the best set was by a European, in my eyes anyway. Mr Sims. Big-up.

[Callisto]

The lineup - last time I looked was a collection of showcases from ACTUAL DETROIT outfits... Women on Wax? Nefarous? Dan Bell? Darkcourse? D Records? - are these not from Detroit?? what is wrong with having a mix of individuals from accross the globe who also cite their influences as being from Detroit.... ??? - As much as I bow at the door of Detroit music, it's time to stop being so sentimental and celebrate the fact that someone has actually got off their arse.. and put it on the line to make this years festival a success!!

[mat]

I don't like the fest line-up either, it could be sonar. The DEMF should be a way to help detroit artists that are not known in their city/country, instead of that it's a commercial party.
I'm not saying that the artists are not good or are not taking inspiration from detroit music but this festival should be used to bring more detroiters and americans to detroit techno rather than make a trip for euopean ravers.
The festival doesn't help you to see/understand what detroit music is, last year it was a bunch of european attendees : it was like in a european rave; when they've presented Niko Marks noboby knew about him nor members of the house, nor mike banks. Some people have even said that UR was not a techno band but a funk band and were surprised that detroit music come from funk !!!
Anyway, I hope it will bring some money to the D.

[nymphomytechno]

I saw some quality local talent there last year, although the best set was by a European, in my eyes anyway. Mr Sims. Big-up.

[thoth]

I don't like the fest line-up either, it could be sonar. The DEMF should be a way to help detroit artists that are not known in their city/country, instead of that it's a commercial party.
I'm not saying that the artists are not good or are not taking inspiration from detroit music but this festival should be used to bring more detroiters and americans to detroit techno rather than make a trip for euopean ravers.
The festival doesn't help you to see/understand what detroit music is, last year it was a bunch of european attendees : it was like in a european rave; when they've presented Niko Marks noboby knew about him nor members of the house, nor mike banks. Some people have even said that UR was not a techno band but a funk band and were surprised that detroit music come from funk !!!
Anyway, I hope it will bring some money to the D.

I see what you mean.....but alot of detroit artists usually show up to play and if you know who to look for you can catch them.....including a few that are'nt even listed on the line up.

[back2basics]

I think Detroit could do with the tourism and influx of money.

It's all about balance. Put a few big names on and people come from all over bringing money in to the city that is failing. Besides bring in the people, and let the locals run nights and profit that way.

You would think Detroit residents would recognize that.

[nymphomytechno]

Don't be silly? How can you recognise that when you're SOOOOOOO wrapped up in being above evryone else because you ARE detroit.

[pascalo]

Hm, I had a listen to the mix on their website (classic mix - the butcher) and sure, there's everything in there, but a) he cannot scratch b) he has clue about levels c) he still does scratch d) sloopy beatmatching

No wonder that they didn't want this guy there. I would be gutted if I expected some cool house music and instead I get a site set like that in my face.

maybe if you put together a festival you book what U like? I mean, at least it's you who puts in the work? If they are so detroit, why don't they do a festival? Well, whatever ...

[back2basics]

Don't be silly? How can you recognise that when you're SOOOOOOO wrapped up in being above evryone else because you ARE detroit.

If the America car industry keeps on the way it is, there won't be a detroit in 10 years.

The population is shrinking faster than any other city in America.

Their unemployment rate is higher than Sven Vath in the Richie/Vath sealed with a loving kiss video.. probably baout as high as Vath when he took a shit in the corridore Space.

[Iridium]

I disagree......there will be plenty of detroit talent on hand and alot of the european artists are awesome as well....nothing wrong with a little diversity in the line up.
and why does it have to be "some white kid".......fucking racist bullshit remark.

Huvare who runs paxahau is "some white kid" and this line up totally geared for a white audience. If anyone is being racist he is for putting together a lineup that caters to his fellow whites who don't live in the city of Detroit while ignoring the tastes of the black community that lives in the city of Detroit.

You obviously haven't seen the lineup on DEMF.com. I have and there are no Detroiters on that lineup. What being on hand is supposed to do for the line up I don't know. If they aren't on the billI they most likely aren't playing. The city council requires that paychecks for talent be paid 30 days before, that's why they got rid of Carl Craig.

I never said there aren't some good European artists. The DEMF has always been about showcasing Detroits home grown talent. But that has changed now. This lineup could be for a show in any city. This line up does not say Detroit. You could stay in Europe and see most of this lineup.

There is no diversity in the line up, do a google image search the whole line up is white except for three people.

This is the first time there have been junglists on the line up. The reason why they haven't played before is Detroit has an indigenous Detroit style known as Ghetto Tech or Booty. Booty is big amongst the blacks of all ages while jungle is way more popular with the little white kids.

I am not the one who has turned his back on the African American community of Detroit so fuck you and your racist label.

[thoth]

I disagree......there will be plenty of detroit talent on hand and alot of the european artists are awesome as well....nothing wrong with a little diversity in the line up.
and why does it have to be "some white kid".......fucking racist bullshit remark.

Huvare who runs paxahau is "some white kid" and this line up totally geared for a white audience. If anyone is being racist he is for putting together a lineup that caters to his fellow whites who don't live in the city of Detroit while ignoring the tastes of the black community that lives in the city of Detroit.

You obviously haven't seen the lineup on DEMF.com. I have and there are no Detroiters on that lineup. What being on hand is supposed to do for the line up I don't know. If they aren't on the billI they most likely aren't playing. The city council requires that paychecks for talent be paid 30 days before, that's why they got rid of Carl Craig.

I never said there aren't some good European artists. The DEMF has always been about showcasing Detroits home grown talent. But that has changed now. This lineup could be for a show in any city. This line up does not say Detroit. You could stay in Europe and see most of this lineup.

There is no diversity in the line up, do a google image search the whole line up is white except for three people.

This is the first time there have been junglists on the line up. The reason why they haven't played before is Detroit has an indigenous Detroit style known as Ghetto Tech or Booty. Booty is big amongst the blacks of all ages while jungle is way more popular with the little white kids.

I am not the one who has turned his back on the African American community of Detroit so fuck you and your racist label.

I do see your point .......I would rather see more detroit in the line up , thats my favorite stuff as far as techno goes and thats my reason for going. I hope that "many detroit artists" yet to be announced as it says at the bottom of the list will become a reality.

[Iridium]

Promoters in Detroit would make P.T. Barnum cringe. It's 30 days out and the locals aren't on the line up. I would bet money that the locals they do manage to come up with won't be anyone special, they'll just be filler. Otherwise they would be advertising them by now.

The Detroit techno artists stick together. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't like Kevin Saunderson getting replaced by someone from outside the family.

[electricsoul]

DEMF Detroit Electronic Music Festival - knid of plain to me that it should be a showcase for Detroit artists primarily and also artists influenced by Detroit Music. Always a dream of mine to go to it, but you would be expecting a lot more thatn what is promised this year. I have some vids on the PC at home of Moodymann and Mike Huckaby DJ'ing at one of them and it looks the business, all types of people getting down to the music together, the MUSIC being the most important part of it, was the original ethos of the festival to get outsiders in to see what Detoit and Detroit music is about?

[detroyano]

I just think DEMF should be what Detroit people want it to be

[Riot Nrrrd™]

Huvare who runs paxahau is "some white kid" and this line up totally geared for a white audience. If anyone is being racist he is for putting together a lineup that caters to his fellow whites who don't live in the city of Detroit while ignoring the tastes of the black community that lives in the city of Detroit.

You obviously haven't seen the lineup on DEMF.com. I have and there are no Detroiters on that lineup. What being on hand is supposed to do for the line up I don't know. If they aren't on the billI they most likely aren't playing. The city council requires that paychecks for talent be paid 30 days before, that's why they got rid of Carl Craig.

I never said there aren't some good European artists. The DEMF has always been about showcasing Detroits home grown talent. But that has changed now. This lineup could be for a show in any city. This line up does not say Detroit. You could stay in Europe and see most of this lineup.

There is no diversity in the line up, do a Google image search the whole line up is white except for three people.

Plaslaiko posted the full lineup to (313). Do you like whinge with your crow?

Subject: complete fest lineup
From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <derek@datavibe.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:27:13 +0000 (UTC)
To: 313@hyperreal.org

Adam Beyer
Adam Marshall - live
Adam X . live
Andy Toth - live
Anthony Attalla
Ark - live
Audion - live
Blaze . live
Bluetech
Bodycode - live
Brian Kage
Carl Craig
Chemlab - live
Chris Rohn
Clark Warner
Colin Z - live
Collabs Tour (Speedy J / Chris Liebing) - live
Dandy Jack & the Junction SM - live
Daniel Bell
David Duriez
Dennis Cox
Derek Fox
Derek Michael - live
Derrick Carter
Dethlab
Detroit Techno Militia
Doc Martin - live + dj
Donald Glaude
Donnacha Costello - live
Drew Maddox and Eric Cloutier
Ezekiel Honig - live
F.I.S.T.
Final Cut - live
Frank Martiniq
Function & Regis - live
Greenskeepers - live + dj
Heartthrob - live
Ian Hind
Insideout . live + dj
J DILLA TRIBUTE
James Holden
Jared Wilson
Jay Haze
Jen Xerri
Jenna Brown
Jeremy Ellis & John Arnold
Jeremy P. Caulfield - live
John Acquaviva . live and dj
Josh Wink
Julius the Mad Thinker
Kenneth Thomas
Kenny Glasgow
Kero - live
Kevin Saunderson
Kill Memory Crash - live
Klimek - live
Krikor - live
Le Petit Orb - live
Little Louie Vega
Magda
Marcus Beier
Mark Broom
Mark Grant
Markus Guentner
Mike Clark
Mike Huckaby
Mikkel Metal - live
Minx
Monologic - live + Ian
Mr. V
Ms. Honey Dijon
Neil Landstrumm - live
Nicholas Sauser - live
Nitzer Ebb - live
Otto Von Schirach - live
Pantytec - live
Pascal F.E.O.S.
Pepo
Photek
Planet of the Drums
Richard Devine - live
Richie Hawtin
Rob Acid Live
Rob Hood . live + dj
Ronin Selecta and Matt Clarke
Roy Davis, Jr.
Ryan Elliot
Shaun Michaels
Someone Else - live
Strider
Superpitcher
Tortured Soul - live
Troy Pierce
Yos

Now, you all can figure out a way to hate this too.

derek.

[thoth]

yeah! looks much better.

[Midnight]

Final Cut - live

Is this the old Jeff Mills industrial project?

[thoth]

Final Cut - live

Is this the old Jeff Mills industrial project?

whoa!

[LeighButler]

GET IN-FCUKING-VOLVED.

Nice.